The culpri.. err. product.

I’m going to tell you something shocking.

Are you ready for it?

I was not born with an innate sense of vitamin knowledge.

I’ll wait for you to recover for a moment.

There was a time when I was a complete moron when it came to vitamins, and I just bought things willy-nilly.

You’ve heard about my foray (after being told to, of course, by my surgeon) with Tums, Flintstones, and Optisource.  And the consequences it wreaked with my bones and iron stores.

You’d think this would have been enough.  Well, sorta.  It taught me that I needed more vitamins, but it still didn’t quite kick it all the way home.

This is one of those instances.

I found this line by NatureMade and bought into them.

Now, admittedly?  My labs are GOOD on them.  In fact, they were high enough that I moved to every other day:

B1 – 33.7 ug/L (Range 4.0-20.0)
Folate – >24.0 ng/mL (Range >5.4 is good)

So I know I absorb them.  Plus my pee is bright, BRIGHT yellow after taking, from the Riboflavin.

With that said, after I knew more about vitamins, and I knew what I was looking at, I knew I was good and didn’t bother to look beyond anything else.  You know – ain’t broken and and all.

Until this morning with a post from the RNY board on ObesityHelp got me into mad science experiment mode.  I like to do these.  If you’ve not seen my Citracal experiment, you should.

It turns out these are in an oil-emulsification.  FUN!  And with a fat-malabsorption process?  Not so good.  (So Vitalady?  This even adds to the confusion as to how the holy hell do I absorb B’s so well?  And can we bottle it?)

So now I have pictures.  And a kitchen that smells like stinky B-complex.  And theories.  So here we go.

Tests were done in my kitchen, not a lab, using Wilson, NC municipal tap water.  This is not a great tap water to begin with.  If you catch it and let it sit, it will turn the surface pink and slimey.  We don’t know why.  It’s strange.  But they tell us it’s safe.  In any case, I chose shot glasses, because, really, I’d like to take one right now.  And well, they were clean.

The one on the right is one I punctured and put into a glass and tried to stir up to see if the oil came to the surface.  The one on the left is one I plunked into warm water and left alone.  Pictures are done in 2 minute increments and LEFT ALONE between (no stirring).  This technically wouldn’t be the case as there is peristalsis in the body (the motion of the inner guts), but so be it.  I have young kids at foot and I cant sit and stir, take photos, watch a stop watch, keep them from drawing on a wall, let the dogs out, etc.  So just use this data as closely as possible.  It’s not exact anyway because we know that every gut is going to be different after WLS anyway.

At 2 minutes, the capsule looks like it’s beginning to break down:

2 minutes.

At 4 minutes, there’s a yellowish tinge to the water:

4 minutes

At 6 minutes, the soft gel looks VERY soft, and there’s definitely yellow water at the bottom:

6 minutes out

At 8 minutes, more of the same:

8 minutes

At 10 minutes, just more of the same:

10 minutes

So 10 minutes is about as long as I get out of the kids attention alone.  Sorry.  So it’s time to get results:

The squirted side..

Now, that looks like the soybean oil to me, but, yannow, that’s just me.  But there IS yellow liquid in the glass.  And the yellow liquid IS the b-vitamin complex.. just how much of it, I don’t know.  I cannot measure how much is suspended in the water versus how much is still in the oil that’s on the spoon and the sides of the glass.  Now, the stuff in the glass?  We’d absorb.  The stuff on the outside?  Not as much (if any).

I also poured out the yellow liquid to see what was on the glass:

Yummy!

So let’s look at the encapsulated side.

I got out another spoon and stirred for about a minute:

Looks BETTER..

There’s definitely particulate, but also yellow in the water.  So it’s looking like it will dissolve and absorb somewhat as well.  Diminished to be sure, but to what extent, I don’t know.

The spoon has a bit on it just from this little contact:

Mmm...

So knowing what I know now, would I recommend this to another post-op?  No.  Not really.  If they REALLY wanted to try it, I’d make sure they watched their labs VERY closely to make sure they got adequate absorption rates.  But it’s questionable given the oil.

This only proves that I’m even more of a freak than I first thought.  Which says a whole lot, but really shouldn’t come as much of a surprise to anyone here.

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3 Responses to “NatureMade Super B-Complex Liquid Softgel Experiment”

  1. Teresa Stapleton says:

    Andrea..
    I take the Nature Made B-Complex but I take the tablet not the capsule.. am I to assume the tablet will give the amount I need since there is no oil involved?

  2. Andrea says:

    I’d make that assumption, but of course, use your labs as a guide.

  3. Beka says:

    Nature Made iron brought my levels back into the normal range. I’ve not seen this version of the B complex, but next time I’ll try it. I’ve done ok on the tablet, but am needing to double it, since my doc wants me on the high side of normal.

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